TRANSCRIPTION EXCERPTS:
CITY OF SULTAN OCTOBER 12, 2006 COUNCIL
MEETING
LINKS TO EXCERPTS:
During
Public Works report – Regarding typing
(classification) of Sultan's streams/creeks:
C/M Boyd: I've had a couple of calls that I think [unintelligible]. They're for Rick but Rick is not going to be back until Monday. Are you – Is anybody doing – is—is staff doing the follow-up on classifications of Wagley and Winters Creek? Does anyone know that?
PW Dir. Dunn: Classification – yes. I – I looked at a map today from Fish & Wildlife. Classification of Wagley Creek is a Type 3. Classification of Winters Creek is a Type 3 until you get down close to the river, after it goes through the [sounds like "ox glove"] and it become a Type 2 Winters – and that part of Winters Creek is actually in [the] flood zone and also in city park.
C/M Boyd: Thank you very much.
Mayor Tolson: Thank you very much. All right.
C/M Flower: Oh, one more question. Do we have documentation available for the classifications of these particular streams?
PW Dir. Dunn: I looked at a map today.
C/M Flower: Which one?
PW Dir. Dunn: Fish and Wildlife. The one Craig had in his office. Rick would have not known where it was at last week. Or two weeks ago. It's [the] only map that Craig has from, um, the Department of Fish & Wildlife. It also shows the different branches of Winters Creek and Wagley Creek that actually goes into 4's and 5's, but they're up out of – most of that is up out of the Industrial Park area at this point.
C/M Flower: Okay. Thank you.
[End of this excerpt.]
Discussion
re City's Non-compliance with CAO (Critical Areas Ordinance)
D. Murphy: And last, I need to tell you that we – that Rick (Cisar) received an email from…uh – it's from CTED (Washington State Community, Trade and Economic Development). And they asked about our, um, critical areas ordinance. And we [sounds like, "did compliance with that"]….so, uh – in order for the – to be approved for the $1.0 million grant. And so that is, uh, uh, a dilemma that we need to –
PW Connie Dunn: Million-dollar grant loan.
D. Murphy: I'm sorry. Not the million dollar grant, the million dollar low interest loan for the preconstruction of the Wastewater Treatment Plant.
Mayor Tolson: Okay.
D. Murphy: And is that it, Connie?
PW Director Dunn: I believe so.
D. Murphy: It's just [unintelligible] email now? Are there any questions?
[Not transcribed is a brief exchange between Murphy and C/M Slawson re his question re dedication/ribbon-cutting for the SBR intersection.]
Tolson: All right. Any questions for Donna?
C/M Boyd: Not so much a question. I'd just like to say I, I didn't realize that this, uh, CTED was gonna bite us so fast. Wasn't sure it was, but it has. Um…but does the council need to go back and look and [lightly taps the desk several times]…. And if the classifications of the streams are such, as is said, and we can get those in a[n] ordinance written up and specified in our ordinance, then I think we need to look at this again. This is a lot of money. So it's—it's—that's –
Mayor Tolson: It will be out in the next agenda.
C/M Boyd: I understand. And when will that be?
C/M Blair: That specific map, I do believe, was incorporated and paid for by two of the consultants as part of the Shoreline Master Plan, is my thought. Whether or not it made it into the final document, I don't know. But it certainly was at the presentation with all the mapping which I've scrutinized, and realized that they just paid fifty bucks today from the Fish & Wildlife – Or however much it was.
Tolson: From the county?
C/M Blair: No. No, that one comes straight from Fish & Wildlife. That's one that I was saying that, uh, you, you do get straight from Fish & Wildlife and we—you just pay them that for the map.
Tolson: So our—our—our ordinance coming up does both list them. [Question addressed to Attorney Graafstra] Are you familiar with that document yet?
City Attorney Graafstra: I supplied Rick with language to add to the ordinance that would reference a [sounds like he says, "mapper map" or "map or map"] that he would--could—identif[y]--our [unintelligible; sounds sort of like "communication"] information in as being the typing of rating, um, as shown upon that map.
C/M Boyd: And, Donna, can you tell us, we're not
totally out of this, correct?
D. Murphy: The—the email that—that Rick was sent asked basically for confirmation that we were in compliance with the Critical Area Ordinance. And since—since we're not – we haven't adopted it yet – but we, uh, anticipate that we will not receive the loan offer on November 7. Unless those may – unless it's—it's passed at the very next meeting and we could give them –
Mayor Tolson: Expedite.
D. Murphy: Right. So what – we won't get the loan offer without
having that in place. And, and keep in
mind, too, they other grants that we have with the – we have the other million
dollar grant for the south leg of
Mayor Tolson: The Sultan Basin Road grant dollars, are those federal?
D. Murphy: Yes. Yeah, that's, uh, that's called Washington—or—C…. I'm using my reference – STP funds.
Mayor Tolson: It's STP, but that isn't impacted by CTED?
D. Murphy: Okay. I stand corrected. Yes.
Mayor Tolson: I just—just wanted to clarify that because that's –
D. Murphy: [simultaneously] So state dollars.
Mayor Tolson: -- they're separate animals.
D. Murphy: Okay.
Mayor Tolson: Yes, it's just state dollars.
D. Murphy: Okay. Yeah. And it wouldn't be CDBG either.
Mayor Tolson: Correct.
D. Murphy: 'Cause that's [unintelligible] as well.
Mayor Tolson: Correct.
D. Murphy: Okay.
Mayor Tolson: The state gives us a lot of money.
Female: It does.
Mayor Tolson: Kristina?
C/M Blair: Could you please get clarification that the
purpose of supplying all those maps for the Shoreline – specifically the
Shoreline Master Plan – was to incorporate those as part of our documentation,
was my understanding. And, therefore, that Fish & Wildlife map that Connie
referenced was a part of that and, and identified in that. Um, would—could you find out if, in fact,
that made it into that final document that we approved in the Shoreline Master
Plan ? [This request was directed to the
Mayor.]
Mayor Tolson: We can have staff look into that.
C/M Blair: Because that may make the job easier to—for compliance because if we've already identified it in our Shoreline Master Plan, it is specifically identified and it becomes a part of our Critical Areas Ordinance. Am—am I right?
[simultaneous comments;
one by Mayor Tolson – sounds like something about "following the
notes"?]
C/M Blair: Thank you.
C/M Boyd: I think you'll certainly see a different argument from council, especially if our landowners are – even so much as protected (sic) by having this map in our – these documents that….Kristina's talking about, in there, so that there is some protection. And I think you'll see the ordinance [sounds like he says, "change at a council"], so we've gotta get that done.
Mayor Tolson: All
right. We'll include that as well. Thank you.
No further questions? Thank you,
Donna. [End of this excerpt.]
[Two questions followed, unrelated to
this subject, one from C/M Slawson re
something that sounded like "R-typing" and a question from C/M
Champeaux re Sportsman's Park improvements.]
Contributions from "Building Industry" to fund Sultan's Comprehensive Plan Revisions to bring that Plan into compliance as mandated by the Growth Management Hearings Board/CTED (Audio is in File G-2, Ord. 936-06 Budget Amendment)
Gordon Hey: And then the planning outdate – update -- in-kind we're asking for [unintelligible word] of $20,000 this year and the general fund will contribute another $20,000 next year. But I need to mention to you that we have received $30,000 in contributions, which I've asked Laura to put in the Treasurer's Trust Fund so that we will have money next year available for Shockey. [This refers to Reid Shockey, the consultant hired by the City to perform the GMHB-mandated update of Sultan's recently-completed 2004 Comprehensive Plan, in order to bring that Plan into legal compliance with the GMA "Fallgatter V FDO" on our Growth Management Hearings Board appeals page for specifics.]
Mayor Tolson: Okay. All right. We need questions from council on this?
Gordon Hey: You have any questions on [unintelligible]?
C/M Blair: The $20,000?
Gordon Hey: Pardon me?
C/M Blair: Could you explain the $20,000 you just mentioned that you want to have available for Shockey? It's donated? Is that what I heard you say?
Gordon Hey: Well, yeah. The contract, I think, is for 40 -- $20,000 or $40,000. And it will probably run from 2006, end of 2007. We'd pay the first half, $20,000 this year, from utility funds. We'll pay the $20,000 next year under the funds that we've got in the Treasurer's Trust for that purpose.
C/M Blair: [unintelligible] donate [interrupted] –
[simultaneous comments]
Gordon Hey: These contributions were just made within the last couple of weeks.
C/M Boyd: Well if they exist to the Treasurer, why not just pay it?
Gordon Hey: Ah. Couple reasons. [pause] I'd have to redo this budget, which is fine. There's no problem.
Mayor Tolson: Hm!
[short, barking laugh
from someone]
Gordon Hey: But you know -- well, no, it's a bureaucratic problem. But right now it's easy. It's quick, it's easy. And we'll know that if we run over, if we have any cost overrun on the Reid Shockey thing in 2007, we've got our money available to pay for it. And it will be in your 2007 budget. It'll be earmarked as such.
C/M Blair: The only confusion I still have is first you used the word "donation," and now you've used the word "contribution." Where's the money coming from, then?
Gordon Hey: Well, they're really the same.
C/M Blair: Okay. Sure, but where are these donations and contributions coming from?
Gordon Hey: They're coming from, uh, the building industry.
C/M Blair: Oh. Okay. Thank you.
C/M Seehuus: So it's revenue?
Gordon Hey: Pardon me?
C/M Seehuus: It's revenue, not contributions or … --
Gordon Hey: Well –
C/M Seehuus: When you say "contribution" [or] "donation" I conjure up somebody writing a check to us saying, "Here's a donation –
Gordon Hey: They did.
C/M Seehuus: -- to help you out --
Gordon Hey: They did.
C/M Seehuus : -- you know?
Gordon Hey: They did.
C/M Blair: Great.
[End this excerpt.]
Statement
by new
Mayor Tolson: Okay. Ms. Knight, Mrs. Knight – Deborah, would you please stand and come forward. This is, this is my first time appointing a city administrator. I have appreciated getting to know you. I've appreciated the process of this. And would like to introduce you to the council. And at this particular point in time, if any of you would like to ask her a question, I would allow you to do so. Encourage you to do so.
C/M Slawson(?): Are you moving into our Fair city?
Deborah Knight: I
am not going to be moving into your fair city, although I'm—I'm just thrilled
about all the new development that you have gong on. I actually live just outside the city of
Male: Take the back roads.
Deborah Knight: Take the back roads…
C/M Blair: I know as a council member I'm looking forward to having someone full-time in the position. I look forward to the focus that Prothman had on the position of treating our citizens as our customers, as our #1 customers. They are—are – they invest in Sultan. Uh, and, uh, and the challenges that [unintelligible] position will be interesting and challenging [unintelligible].
C/M Flower: I would, uh, appreciate the background and experience you bring to this position, and thank you for expressing interest and helping out our little burg. I hope you're tough. It's going to be a tough job and there's some tough issues ahead of us. And, uh….expect results.
C/M Seehuus: I'd echo Councilman Flower's comments. Welcome.
Deborah Knight: Thank you.
Male: And welcome.
Deborah Knight:
Thank you. I'm very excited to, to be a
part of this community and very excited to serve the mayor and the council and,
and, uh, work with the staff and become part of the team. I think you've got some – as several people
have mentioned here tonight some great opportunities before you. And, and, uh, I think that there's just going
to be a lot of work to do, both for me and, and for the council and for the
staff in order to kind of pull everything together. But it sounds like you have
on your plates. It sounds like you have
a lot of, a lot of vision for your community, too, and I'm, I'm – especially I
think I'm appreciative of the, of the kind of the camaraderie I see between the
council members and the community here tonight.
It's certainly refreshing. It's
not what I'm currently experiencing at my job at the City of
C/M Champeaux: [unintelligible, then group laughter]
Mayor Tolson: We don't have a Brightwater sitting at the [unintelligible] of the city here.
Deborah Knight: Well, I appreciate the show, at least. Thank you.
Mayor Tolson: We have a motion and a second. All in favor, then, please say aye. [All ayes] You've signed on, and this is not the Titanic, okay? Looking forward, Deborah. And she will begin the latter part of – November the 20th? Is that – the 20th?
Deborah Knight: The 20th. It'll be the 20th, my first official day. Although I was already speaking with the clerk about coming to the budget meetings [unintelligible] so you're going to be seeing a lot more of me even before I start.
[end of excerpt]