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(Photo below: Red dotted line indicates the connector road the City is proposing for the Dyer-Skywall area.)
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Discussion Item (re TIP Plan) by Sultan Council
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(Note: This discussion occurs about 15 minutes into the Discussion Agenda Item on Sultan's Transportation Plan [TIP], if you wish to listen to the audio on our website; 3.8 mb MP3 file)
City Administrator Deborah Knight: The other item I'd like to point out to council this evening is just a question about the Dyer-Skywall connection. In your comprehensive plan, there's a proposed roadway that connects the Dyer Addition with the Skywall subdivision. And that has caused some concern by the residents. And they have asked council to remove that project from its TIP, from its Transportation Improvement Plan. What concerns me about that proposal is that that area floods, and currently the residents – the residents move out of that area during a flooding situation by crossing private property and then working their way along the railroad right-of-way. And it works fine for now because that area hasn't been developed. But if that area does develop….I'm concerned that you won't have great emergency ingress or egress during a flood event. In having this discussion with Mr. Gerry Gibson, one f the things that Mr. Gibson suggested was, well, part of the flooding problem may, in fact, be a small culvert. That the culvert for Wagley Creek is too small, and so it ends up backing up, you know, onto the—into the housing development and along the roadway. So one alternative might be to try and fix the flooding problem so you could increase the culvert side.
C/M Slawson: So when we take the culvert out there's no road for them to get out of where they live, so they have to drive on the railroad tracks.
City Administrator Deborah Knight: You would –
C/M Slawson: Wouldn’t that be true?
City Administrator Deborah Knight: You would increase the culvert size. You would raise the roadway –
C/M Slawson: Yeah, but when you take the culvert out, how are they going to get out of there?
Mayor Ben Tolson: You – you're putting the culvert back in.
C/M Slawson: Yes. But [unintelligible] how are they going to get out? They going to drive that piece of property over the road that's projected.
City Administrator Deborah Knight: So the – so the staff suggestion was to instead create an emergency access road. So it would be bollard off or you'd have a gateway or something, and during an emergency, you'd come and you'd cut the [unintelligible] or remove the bollards and then people could come and go and you'd be over public right of way, rather than having to go over private right-of-way, private road, private property.
So those are the project changes that you see on the map. The other thing I want to bring to your attention is that the 41 projects, for the cost estimates that we currently have, those 41 projects come to about $15 million. [segment ends at 17:10]
(Discussion beginning at time code 20:38)
C/M Slawson: I have this one that shows on T-28 on your—that goes from Dyer to Skywall. But that's not exactly how it was shown in the original map.
City Planner Rick Cisar: It's just i[stutters].
C/M Slawson: It's a straight line. But it really is a diagonal line that goes out from Dyer to almost to the foundry on that end. Is that why the citizens that live in that area are complaining? Because they don't realize it really goes another way?
Mayor Ben Tolson: They—they just don't want a through street.
C/M Slawson: I understand that, but …
Mayor Ben Tolson: It – I mean, that's just [unintelligible] don't want.
C/M Slawson: Trust me, I've talked to Mr. Gibson many times about this.
Mayor Ben Tolson: I've had [sounds like he says "call fires"] myself.
C/M Slawson: I—I've sat on the step and listened to him about it.
C/M Flower: [unintelligible].
Mayor Ben Tolson: I can't kill [unintelligible].
City Administrator Deborah Knight: That's why we're seeking council feedback on where T-28 ought to go, and what it ought to be.