[In the interest of trying to shorten this transcription, I have not done a precise word-for-word transcription (i.e., I have omitted superfluous words and false sentence starts), except in one or two instances as indicated.]

HEARING ON FLOOD HAZARD MANAGEMENT PLAN:
A 50-minute presentation was given (check out the full plan on our website).

Branstedder Good evening. My name's Gary Branstedder. I'm an attorney for Snohomish. I represent Roy Hoekema and John Connolly, former residents of Sultan. (Roy Hoekema was one of the owner/developers of the Hoco Flats area south of Rt. 2 near Romac.) Roy's now in Alaska and John's in Guatemala. But they still own the Hoco bar across the river. And I'm here with a letter for council. I have an original for the clerk for the record. And a copy for each of you. So let me give this to Madam Clerk. [The letters are distributed to all council members.] I had asked Craig if it was possible to get this letter to you before the hearing, and ultimately decided that it was probably best that I give it to you and then you folks would have, he thought, perhaps would have a couple of weeks to consider this matter. The letter does three things. One, makes a suggestion for a long- and/or short-term recommendation added to your current plan. Two, it explains that it's entirely, that this request, is entirely consistent with the content, the substance of your plan already. In other words, just before he sat down, Brian was talking about bar scalping. And there is some discussion of that, both in your current comprehensive plan that you're considering tonight, as well as your already-adopted repetitive flood loss plan. And thirdly, at the end of the letter I point out that I'm asking you to add as recommendation for yourself -- doesn't cost you anything -- if you build a flood wall, it costs money. If you raise First Street, it costs money. If you do a variety of other flood protection matters, they cost money. This doesn't cost you any money. What it does do is puts you in a position to have Snohomish County know that this is of interest to you. And some of the things in your comprehensive plan -- some of the comments about bar scalping -- frankly, are entirely consistent with studies that Snohomish County has had done, and which have been on the shelf for anywhere for six to seven years. I just -- you saw me hand something to Craig and to Brian. What I handed them, first of all, a position paper written by Sky Miller, who used to be the hydrologist for the county, and then he went up to Skagit County and now he's in private practice. He considered the Sul--or the Skykomish River, recommended bar scalping on only two gravel bars. That's one of them across the river from you, for flood protection reasons. That position paper was incorporated into Snohomish County's draft flood hazard management plan in a 1996 document, which has never been adopted. It's been on the shelf, but it is being revitalized. Snohomish County has just hired a planner from Eastern Washington to start going through that plan again. Her name is Deborah Cessner [spelling uncertain] an she'll start work April 1. So this is really kind of [a] cutting edge sort of thing right now. I don't know -- I mean, I saw something about three minutes. I don't know if that applies here. I don’t want to overrun my time, but I’m happy to answer any questions. I'm acquainted with your city attorney. He's acquainted with me. I'm free to -- at any time if you got any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. I -- in terms of my practice, I represent four flood control and/or diking districts. Flood hazard, diking, all that kind of -- all those kinds of issues -- are something I'm very familiar with. I've been doing them for 25 years. I haven't worked this far up the valley because I am down by Snohomish. But I've work with Everett, Snohomish, and other municipalities down on my end of the valley. So if we can be of any assistance, we'd appreciate it and we'd appreciate your cooperation in specifically finding the appropriateness of gravel bar scalping and opening up the old shingle-bolt slough. Now, the single biggest thing that causes all the problems with the Sky backing the Sultan up was the bridge, the Fifth Street bridge, because it diked off part of the high-water channel, and it forces the river, as Brian was mentioning, to go virtually due west. There used to be a lot more room. There were some islands out there, and the thing funneled to the southwest. We can open some of those channels up again if we promote this kind of idea of bar scalping and opening up the old slough. And that, again, doesn't cost Sultan any money. Any questions?

Criswell How much material do they figure they would take off out there a year?

Branstedder Well, you're years ahead of me. I don't know. I've been representing them for over 12 years. This is the first time in 12 years that I see -- despite what Brian says -- what I think the regulatory agencies could all be in sync. Because you could also enhance fish habitat by opening up those sloughs. There is a chance to have a double-benefit. Not only flood reduction, but also enhancement of fish habitat. Now, what the regulatory authorities would allow to be taken out of there, I don't know. At a minimum, they would probably allow scalping the bar so that the annual accumulation was taken off. Ideally what you'd do is look at aerial photographs -- and I brought a whole slew of them tonight -- I'm ver sorry. I thought you started this hearing at 7. I checked that about three times with Craig. We must have crossed our wires someplace. But I brought aerial photographs from the county showing what that bar has done as it's gotten bigger and bigger and pushed further and further north. Ideally what we do is cut that bar back to a pre-1965, a pre-bridge size, and then maintain it. And after, of course, opening up the slough, too. That's what we'd ideally like to do.

Porter Five or six years ago we had the Army Corps of Engineers up here. And they told us -- and I believe it was either five or six different rivers in Western Washington -- that they do that bar scalping for flood control and it really works nice. Including the Pilchuck, I believe. It's been done on the Pilchuck, didn't it?

Branstedder Well, there used to be -- not so much of bar scalping. They actually got right in the channel by Snohomish. Now, I don't know if that -- if they're still allowing that or not. I, I don't represent that fellow anymore, but we got -- Mike [sounds like, "Champlain"] of Fisheries was against it and we hauled their own hydrologist up. And he said, Champlain(?), you're wrong. This stuff has to be taken out. And they didn't find that it hurt fish at all. There's also - and Sky Miller talks about this I his report -- I think it's the [sounds like, "Why-oh-me"] River, or something. I can't even pronounce it. But I this state where they do some bar scalping for flood reduction and fish habit--enhancement and it's worked beautifully. So, yes. In fact I talked to two gentlemen from DNR this afternoon on the phone, and again, Brian mentions it -- a study by DNR's river section. He didn't know -- he ran across it on the website. Didn't know how to get ahold of it. I started calling people that I knew at DNR and they have located it and they promised to furnish me with those, as well. But some of this is being looked at in King County as well. So I think we're in a position where things are starting to change. We're balancing out, to have the radical environmentalists against the radical river-dredgers and so on, and nobody would talk to each other. And we're finally achieving some balance.

[As an aside, I'm including an interesting item from the Minutes of the July 22, 1997 Council meeting on this subject: "Administrator [Trippett]: HOCO FLATS -- Brief update on the gravel bar and the condition of river was given. Department of Fisheries has stopped the project in the past but the City is working with the County and the Corp of Engineers to resolve the problems and find ways to alleviate some of the flooding problems."]

Rowe Quite a few months ago we started discussing creating a new sign for the entryway to Sultan on each end of town and doing some landscaping also. And there was not too much getting done on that for awhile. I came up with quite a bit of extra topsoil, which I donated 30 yards of it to the City, which I hauled out and delivered. And Marion Hamilton got involved in this with her company of [unintelligible] Company. She also works for East Teak. She went to her boss and he donated some wood. They have some pretty [unintelligible] wood that at East Teak and she got some of this to make a sign out of. From there, we got the, had the Sultan High School art class got involved. Over 70 students participated in creating a design for our new entryway signs for the City of Sultan. On March 11t^h, the council and myself gathered to take time to choose from the three finalists as to which sign we would accept, which one we would use. And the three finalists from the Sultan High school and the three designs considered were Deanna [pronounced it, "Higherman"], Ian [sounds like "Tile"] and Christina [unintelligible], something like that. Anyway, there was not any real losers in this. All three of these are great designs. And the council took a long time looking at them and decide which one to use. I think what we finally decided was that the two we didn't choose would be kept and we'd try to incorporate them into some other part of our landscaping here in the City. So we don’t want anyone who wasn't chosen at the entryway of Sultan to feel like they didn't do a good job, and let them know that we will use their sign design somewhere else in town.

Loretta Storm [Webmaster of www.ittakesgrit.org and co-founder of G.R.I.T.]:

Bruce Champeaux {Councilmember Champeaux added these comments following the discussion on the pedestrian path, which follow C/M Raney's comment.] I seem to recall we talked about [unintelligible] I came on the council about possibly having a student get [unintelligible] to the council. I wonder if we have done anything with that. There's only about two and a half months of their school year left and if we could maybe explore that. I know that when I was on the Sultan School Board they had a student representative and it was very beneficial, somebody that is going to be the following year's ASB officer, president or vice-president, something like that would maybe want to learn about government and how it works and we might want to -- So if we could maybe get somebody to explore that with the high school and see if we can't get --[interrupted by a comment by Criswell].

Rob Criswell:
I was hoping the people would stay about the sign. I know them signs, a lot of work went into those things. I've tried to engineer things and design things and it's just not an easy job. These kids really work hard and I was hoping they could stay so I could thank them personally.
And one other thing is what Tom Green was referring to. My wife and I was up on the Basin Road just the other day. We seen this whole family of people walking up the side of the road there. And they were pushing a stroller. And I mean, it's horrible. At least, I don't know why anybody would walk up the side of that road. There's something needs to be done with that.
Dusty Boucher: Just to piggyback with Rob, I want to thank Donna and everyone involved in coordinating that Gateway sign.. The kids generally show up (?) but that meant a heck of a lot to them and their parents. And that was a very cool thing.

Perry McPherson I want to piggyback on that, also. That was really great, that design. Mrs. Don Broughton had called me regarding a veterans' memorial that could be located possibly over near the water foundation on Highway 2. She had mentioned that -- I believe she gave you a picture from Westport and maybe we could look at that and see what we can do, or consider it. And I told her I would bring it up at the council meeting. [Rowe and Perry talked briefly about the Westport design - which looks a little bit like the Vietnam Wall -- Bob Hazlebrook's idea of a memorial in the cemetery but only for those K.I.A.]

[Commented on Jerry Senner presentation being a good one, and asked status. Mr. Senner has presented this to the Economic Development Committee. He has now garnered support from property owners on the east end of town; they will donate land for the easement for the track on the Botting property. More was included later in Donna's Staff/Committee report. Perry said his primary concern was that it not be located too far off Highway 2.]
Jim Porter [A question on interfund transfer.] I wanted to comment on that sign, too, Gateway Sign. I don't know how we're going to mount it or support it, but if you want to use some logs, some poles, I'll donate the poles to do that. Just in case you're wanting to use some. [laughter and chit-chat] I'd like to comment on what Tom had to say, because I've seen that same thing. I think that, as I recall, I don't remember that getting into the Comprehensive Plan, to put a walking trail, some kind of facility, off that hill. There should be. I know that if we open this trail up, that's going to be some of that, but come down the Sultan Basin Road, there definitely should be some effort put into making a place to walk.
McPherson To me, the guardrail there should be raised up, so that if somebody did go off of there, they wouldn't hit anyone.
Porter Yeah. Should be something there. And even then, it's steep. Even if you pave it, it's still very steep to come off. Is it in the comprehensive plan, is what I was wondering.
Connie Dunn Well, we've also talked about it when we do the intersection, addressing it that -- 'cause we have a Sultan Basic Concept Plan, we have the Industrial Park Master Plan so we've accumulated a lot of data, and we'd like to address issues of how the pedestrians are going to get down that road safely. It's going to be a challenge. And we've looked behind the guardrail. And once we touch that guardrail, it's gotta move up to state standards, so we've kind of just left it alone for right now. Until we had some money and I think that's where we're going, in that direction. I think we all can agree that this is a real hazard.

Criswell Well, it's not just on the hill there that's a problem. It's clear out --
Porter One other comment was on the water facility. We have the lights up there now and I [unintelligible] report was real nice [train goes by, obliterating some words]. I think the one thing you need to do yet is to take a look at having someone up there at all times.
Dunn Actually, Mike wrote the report for you and I just delivered it. He did a very good job. And in his report he does say that having someone up there would be a good idea. The city just needs to determine how much we're going to pay for septic tank design and what we're going to do with the [unintelligible] services, utilities up there.

Jeff Everett Yeah, I'm sorry to see most of the students took off. Wanted to reiterate what some of the other councilmembers have said. It was a tough decision. We even had a tie vote in making the choice, though all the designs were very good. And then the other item I had was as we move along this year, when we get the chance and we have the money available, we shouldn't forget our police department. We probably should consider reinstating, like their police training incentive. They stepped - they came up to the plate for us, and we need to reciprocate in some form and let them know how much we value their contribution to our community. That's all I have.

Further discussion ensued about how the city could deal with a path or other resolution to the problem of pedestrians using Sultan Basin Road.

Donna Murphy:
Economic Development: Talked about the full-color, four-page "marketing" brochure for Sultan. Bonneville Power supplied a grant to print them.
Donna's working with Jane Botting on the marketing of Sultan Towne Center which will hopefully be the new home of the Tourist Information Center. There's been discussion to have tracks throughout Sultan Towne Center (which is located east of Rice Road and north of Highway 2. The group will meeting weekly. The group has met with WSDOT representative Terry Paananen and they have said they will support the new concept. Donna said that Mr. Paananen has given assurances to the city that as long as it's moving along, "they will not hold us to the wall about obligating this by September." He wants the project to go succeed.
She's also working on McDonald's re a grand opening/ribbon-cutting around the end of May. She's had discussions with both Safeway and Hagen's Food for a possible location at Sultan Towne Center.
She's meeting with the Puget Sound Economic Development District regarding the Evergreen Crescent Initiative (they gave a presentation awhile back to the council). Planning Commission Dalmasso recruited 100% of the $1,000 investment to join this group from private individuals, as follows: ALL Real Estate, CH Rowe Trucking Transport, Dutch Cup Restaurant, Equity Options, Inc., Hardy Management, Janie Botting, [sounds like, "Lang-shul"] construction, Pure Foods, Inc., Sky Valley Internet Services and the Sultan Bakery, all donated $100 each.
Downtown Beautification Workshop Thursday, April 4^th at 7 p.m. "Main Street USA" does not belong just to the downtown merchants. WSDOT will be traveling from Olympia to put this workshop on.

Railroad Spur: "I had a meeting regarding a railroad spur and commuter train in Sultan. Representatives from Burlington Northern [unintelligible], Snohomish County EDC, local representatives from Romac Industries, East Teak Trading Group and a local citizen, Kay George, was there who happened to have organized the meeting. City representation at this meeting was Mayor Rowe, Councilmember Porter, Planning Director Rick Cisar and myself. Basically in a nutshell, in the meeting Burlington Northern gave us guidelines for an industrial track project. We discussed the possibility of placing the spur at Romac on their property, and the cost-benefit ratio to that concept. I'm not sure about these numbers, but the spur needs to be 100 feet long. Is that correct, CH? I'm not sure about that. [Rowe said, "1,000 feet long. A minimum of 1,000.] and accommodate about 20 cars to actually benefit local businesses in the area. The cost is between $500,000 and $750,000. So what the action items are for the commuter train, we're going to -- I'm going to send a letter to the commercial and industrial stakeholders from our industrial park master plan to see if there's interest in pursuing this. And then possibly forming a financial partnership with all of the businesses. Also looking in forming a port authority to take advantage of the all the advantages that city don't have that port authorities do. And we will be meeting again in June, come to regroup to decide -- get this information back and decide whether or not we want to move forward on this project. As far as the commuter train goes, it is not feasible at this time. There's really a lack of connections at the other end, so that would not be possible."

Dunn They added condominium development improvements of water, sewer, storm and streets have been installed and tested per city standards. They were submitted and approved by the coun--as approved and submitted -- submitted and approved by the council [unintelligible]. The council request was to review the detention pond calculations for the feasibility of installing the playground in that location. Berryman & Henigar have reviewed the plans and provided the attached memo. I would like to see the council approve this because the developer has done what the city has asked them to do. And the council has made some decisions in the past that we were going to try to resolve. And we do have a meeting with the homeowners on the 26^th at 6:30, the mayor and then I've invited the Public Works committee also. And I know a couple cannot make it, but I would like to see a couple [unintelligible] be able to make it. And I'm not sure if you had a chance to respond or not. So my request is that the council would accept the Date Avenue Condo Project as complete and release the bond.

Porter I'll make that motion, with the stipulation that the city's going to go ahead and finish that playground.

Dunn And work with the homeowners regarding the location, the responsibility of the playground equipment.

Criswell I'll second so we can discuss it.

Rowe It's open for discussion.

Criswell My understanding is that, when I look through this and I see this big file, it's about this thick, my understanding is the city council agreed that they would put it on that lot acr--where, were our…What are we going to do with that pole with this, all these guidelines now? We can't have a playground where these kids are going to be running into these guidelines.

McPherson He's talking about over where that siren is at.

Rowe I think the council has [unintelligible]. What we're looking to do right now is putting it on the same side of the street where the --

Criswell I mean, I'd love to see it on the other side of the street.

Rowe That's what we're trying to do. That's why we're going to meet with the Date Avenue, uh, homeowners association. To see if that'll work for them or what [unintelligible] .

Criswell Will we have to make an amendment to their -- ?

Rowe Well, we will at some point.

Criswell I sure don't want them running [unintelligible] all them guidelines.

Rowe Well, we don't want the little kids running back and forth across the street if that's not necessary either.

Raney I have a question.

Rowe Yes. Go ahead.

Raney First of all, after reading all these documents, it seems like it's been like pulling teeth or worse to get the developer to even give the money for the play equipment, let alone to follow through on what had been agreed to. And granted, that's changed a few times. I guess in looking at the invoice for this, though, the monies that we were paid -- $4,876 -- included $872 for installation. Now, with what we need to do according to the engineer's report here, which is excavate some of that out, raise the level of another part of it and install the equipment, is that going to be adequate?

Criswell Probably not.

Raney Who's going to pay for that? The city?

Rowe We can always take [unintelligible].

McPherson The city now has the $4,800, right?

Raney But, see, it seemed to me like it as a unilateral decision by the developer to decide he wasn't going to do the install. H e was just going to send us a check.

McPherson [That's] What it looks like.

Rowe But I think that was agreed to by the city administrator.

Raney Where is that document that says he agreed to that?

McPherson It's in here, I believe.

Raney That he said that he would accept that?

Rowe It should have been two playgrounds, instead of one, but it was agreed to by the previous city administrator and the contractor, whether Dujardin or whoever, that they'd just give the city money instead of putting in that playground.

Raney See, I see a letter here of August 26^th, 1999 from Fowler, William Fowler, Vice President, stating, "We are no longer in a positive to offer the coordination in orchestrating the installation of that equipment. However, we will provide you with a check in the amount of $4,876.57. And where we made the mistake is we took that check. Does that constitute a contract, Thom? Grant?

Porter Let me correct you, CH, on that. You said the previous city administrator made that decision. It wasn't Roy, I don't think, that made that.

Rowe Let me back up on that. It was our first city administrator. Our first city administrator.

McPherson I guess what we need to know is what Mark had asked, does this constitute a contract? An agreement?

Weed Well, without being involved with the facts and details, it's a little bit difficult to say. If the city stated its willingness to accept the funds in lieu of the actual installation, and then accepted the funds and cashed a check, the city's probably bound by that.

Rowe Where did I read this the other day? Where did I this that [unintelligible], that had Bill Trippett's signature on it about the agreement amendment that came from him to the council?

Raney I see a letter from September 27^th from Christi Amrine. This is about a month after this one was received from Fowler that states, it says "The city requires that the applicant provide the installation of play equipment or that you arrange for the play area to be installed."

Porter And I think that Hans Korve was in on that, too.

Raney I believe Hans was gone by September 27, 1999.

Porter But he was in on the [unintelligible] I think. If I'm not mistaken.

Rowe Hans was terminated in February of '99.

Koenig The initial letters of conditioning was signed by [unintelligible].

Boucher And Christi's letter of August 23, 1999, "The city concurs with the voluntary offer for park mitigation on December 23 [1998] for the installation of play equipment on city property adjacent to the site in lieu of recreation requirements onsite." So at that point it appears they were going for the alternate site, which had to be [unintelligible] and we never did that. But we took their check later.

Porter Ultimately, I think the city is stuck with that, is what I think. And not only that, it's their responsibility.

Raney There's an email here from Connie to Christi that says something about a letter from Buck & Gordon [attorneys] dated December 23, 1998 addressed to Trippett, that they will install the playground equipment from Northwest Playground Equipment for $4876.57. So they're going to install and $4876.57 [unintelligible].

Porter [unintelligible].

Raney See, that's the thing. There's all -- there's these questions and now we've got, is it the equipment? Is it the equipment and the install? And now we've got an install that involves [sounds like, "lifting and filling" -- grading and backfill?]. And I'm not saying I'm against putting it where we want to put it, if that’s where we want to put it, in the pond. I think that's where it belongs. But here we've got, we've spending city money to do private development.

McPherson Maybe the mayor's got extra dirt again.

Criswell And then worry about their building.

Boucher If there was any way -- it's a legal quandry -- if there was any way we could hold the bond, I would be for it. I look through this paper trail -- I've heard stories of city mishaps for over a year now, and I thought that many of them were exaggerated. But I went through this and I was astounded. This was…this was not our finest hour. This was a bad, bad situation. And I don't know -- I don't know what we can do for these people, but we need to give more than an apology. You know, we need to provide them with a reasonable solution. And doing the work that will be required to put that park where the pond is, is going to be very costly. Whether or not we can get some help from the developer, I don't know, based on -- Gosh, when we took that check, that was a no-no.

Porter We can do it this way. We can get our city attorney to review this for quite a few dollars, and we can get our city engineers to get involved in it for quite a few dollars. Or we could just give it to Public Works and say, "Here. Fix it."

Male Well, the engineering's done on [unintelligible].

Dunn We already -- we asked already to make sure that -- if we take an area of that pond and [unintelligible].

Porter And it'll work.

Boucher Yeah, it's doable. It's just -- I think we're going to have to just bite the bullet on it and --

Champeaux You know what? I, I agree. What's been done in the past that problems of the past, we're going to now -- let's just take care of it. The people have been there for years and haven't had the playground equipment. Let's just take care of it. And in that process, write a letter to Dujardin [construction co.] and tell us they owe us 7 cents because their check that they wrote out and the [unintelligible] is the same. They make the check out for 50-cents, not 57 cents. So maybe we got some interest on [unintelligible]. And maybe that'll help with the fill and getting the site ready [said facetiously].

Koenig Can I ask what we're saying here is that we agreed to, just [unintelligible] $1700 for installation, 'cause I don't --

Raney It's on an invoice…

Porter Part of the --

Dunn From the Northwest Playground Equipment invoice.

Koenig But if you read all the correspondence and everything, Dujardin at one point says here's the money but we're not going to -- we're not going to install it now.

Male Right.

Koenig It didn't say that we waived the requirement to install it. All the correspondence says payment and installation.

Raney Well, that's my point. Is that we required both. And then they unilaterally said, well, we're just going to give you the money, although they include installation of above is $872 in that total amount.

Criswell The problem is that --

Champeaux But that was for Northwest Playground to install it.

Koenig This is not our invoice. This is what the invoice they attached on what it was going to cost.

Male Dujardin?

Koenig Dujardin. We didn’t' --

Champeaux Dujardin decided they didn't want to install it. So when they took the bid for playground equipment they had from Northwest Playground Equipment [unintelligible] for the installation.

Koenig But their agreement the whole time was to pay for the equipment and install it.

Criswell Well, but was there ever agreement saying whose going to do the --

Rowe Well, now, wait a minute. Two days ago somebody had this agreement floatin' around here that was signed by Bill Trippett. Anybody got a copy of that? 'Cause that was when they agreed to take the money and -- have you got a copy of that, Connie?

Male I can't find it in my packet.

Rowe 'Cause I'm wondering what that said. I can't remember all it said.

Raney I'm at the point where I agree with Bruce. We've spent a whole lot of time and money pointing fingers and everything and I think we just find a way to legally get this fixed, with as little quality and high quality as we can get.

Rowe The simple way to do it -- just go do it. [unintelligible] Public Works go do it and bite the bullet. We've got the engineering done already. We just bite the bullet and do it.

Raney And is there no -- there's no problem with the use of city equipment to do a private project like this?

Criswell Well, at this point it's not a private project anymore.

Weed Well, I think as long as this park, this equipment that's being installed is available for the public in general and not just the residents of that park, it would probably be an acceptable, allowable expenditure by the city.

Porter Where the city entered into an contractual agreement to accept that money, doesn't that make us responsible to take care of that?

Weed Well, it seemed to me that the city has accepted that in lieu of what the original requirement was. I'm a little at a disadvantage 'cause I don't have the entire notebook of materials, and our office was not… the attorneys for the city at the time this was going on so I don't have a whole lot of familiarity. But from what I've gleaned that's in the council packet, it looks to me like the city agreed to accept the funds in lieu of the equipment, it's probably bound by that.

Criswell My feeling is that this contract [unintelligible] to bail out 'cause he knew there was going to be more expense there than what he had originally figured. So he bailed out and dumped it on us.

Rowe [unintelligible] --

Criswell Not only that --

Rowe -- we also will need to go ahead with our meeting with the homeowners association to make sure that they're in agreement to have it in this area, too.

McPherson I feel also that we should not release the bond until after we have the homeowners meeting. And also, I would like to know who actually owns the pond? Now, I've heard we have, they do. I don't know.

Everett That's a good point, Perry, 'cause I have yet to see a signed, final plat on --

McPherson I haven't either.

Porter They --

Criswell Take your tax roll.

Everett I, I checked with Snohomish County. They don't have a signed copy. Somebody has to have one. There has to be one. I want to see it.

Rowe Connie, who [unintelligible] to drain that [unintelligible] end of the pond when we wanted to do that? Remember the one on Main Street?

Dunn Bill Fowler.

McPherson Contractors.

Dunn The owner [sounds like she said, "bid to Jarnell" -- (not "Dujardin")] development for a [unintelligible], who owned it at that time 'cause when it was still -- the houses were still being built.

Porter That's right. And they owned it.

Dunn It was the developer himself, Bill Fowler.

McPherson I think this is where you better start first, is find out who really owns that pond.

Porter Well, they owned it at the time, and they would not allow --

McPherson Yeah, but it's not deeded over to the city. The only thing I've seen in this is that the city's going to take care of it, maintain it.

Porter Do you remember that Date Avenue "lake" we had --

McPherson Oh, yeah. The one that we had to go across the street with a park.

Porter -- and we tried to --

McPherson Yeah.

Porter -- drain it into there and they said no at the time.

McPherson Anyway, my feeling is that we don't do anything with the bond until this is actually settled.

Koenig May I ask for a clarification on Mr. Everett's statement? Are you saying that Dujardin has never filed this plat with the county auditor?

Everett I'm saying there's a plat filed with the county, but there's no signatures on it.

Koenig Then it's not valid.

Everett That's my point.

Everett But there's a, there's a dedication of a street to the City of Sultan, and all dedications have to be signed off by city council according to our city code. And according to, uh, let's see, RCW 58.17.065.

Ann Huckabone I could bring you the book to show the plat that I have.

Everett So somewhere, we have to have a plat with a signature on it.

Koenig It would have to be the [unintelligible]?

Koenig In fact, they're the ones, the developer is required to provide us with a copy of the recorded map.

Porter Well, then, we -- have they not done that?

Koenig Apparently not, since according to the county records --

Male So, really, we don't need to sign off on this until we get --

Rowe There's no way we're going to sign off on the bond.

Boucher I, I agree. We need to make a commitment. You know, we obviously, there's lots of scenarios involved. But we need to fix this. I mean, when I went through this…then I thought about the Gateway sign and I thought, jeez, this -- our Gateway sign should be a big "Buyer beware" --

Boucher -- sign because that is the message we're sending to these people. This was ridiculous. I mean…this was abysmal.

Male I bet you got a [unintelligible] on that one [some laughter].

Male We need to -- we'll just vote it down.

Rowe Vote it down.

Weed I'd like to [sounds like, "get" ??] that someone be assigned to get a copy of what has been recorded with the county and have us examine it. See if this pond has a separate tract number. See if we can trace the ownership. See if the city has accepted the dedication of that that was to be dedicated to the city. If not, [unintelligible] be the owners are. I think one of the comment[s]a citizen made, it's likely that was deeded to all the homeowners as tenants in common and they have a joint responsibility to maintain it. But by getting a copy of whatever was recorded and possibly checking with the title company, you can be sure who owns what before you make your final decisions on what needs to be done here. And in the meantime, it probably would be appropriate not to take any action in releasing the bond until we know, until you have that sorted out.

Porter Call for the question.

Criswell So you're saying that --

Male No. Just vote on it. Let's vote.

Rowe With that, could we have [unintelligible] ?

Rowe So we just go ahead and [unintelligible] the playground, bite the bullet and get that done? What would you recommend?

Weed My advice would be to continue this matter for two weeks until your next, whenever your next meeting is, 'til investigation, and this can be done and then you can probably make a more informed decision also on whether the city should finish up the playground installation.

Rowe In the meantime, we'll meet with the homeowners association [unintelligible]. Everybody in agreement to that?

Male How you going to vote on this?

Rowe We'll just vote it down. We'll just vote it down.

Male We'll call for the question and let's call --

Rowe Yeah. Bruce?

Champeaux Nay.

Rowe Rob?

Criswell I'm going to abstain. I think you guys are going about this wrong.

Rowe Dusty?

Boucher No.

Rowe Perry?

McPherson No.

Rowe Jim?

Porter No.

Rowe Jeff?

Everett No.

Rowe Mark?

Raney No. Now, do you want a motion to continue this?

Rowe We voted it down for this time, so at the time we come back to the next council meeting, we'll have some more information.

Boucher And who on staff is going to investigate that the paper has been recorded?

Rowe Public Works.

Criswell I see a big grin over there. I think I know who it is.

Rowe We will have a progress report at the next council meeting, right?

McPherson And at that time it would go to the attorneys, and they will give us a report on it also?

Rowe Yes. You will work with the attorneys on that, right, Connie?

Dunn Of course. I have authorization to call them?

Rowe Yes, you do.

Dunn Okay.

Janitorial Service Contract - Seek New Bids, all ayes with exception of C/M Raney, who abstained (due to conflict of interest with a patient)
The cost of this contract has elevated 38% over last year. After discussion, it was agreed to send this out for bids to see if they could obtain a more competitive price and try to include the police department in the contract, which previously had no cleaning service. Chief Walser said he had heard of a company who provides this sort of work for mentally- or physically-challenged individuals, and we should try to check this out as an alternative, a suggestion which was well received.

DISCUSSION ITEM: GRANTS
[This section has been transcribed with most of the wording intact, but in the interests of time expenditure, superfluous words have been cut, and some "non-content" paraphrasing has been utilized.]
Murphy There are two grants that are coming up for parks and recreation. One of them is Interagency for Outdoor Recreation, you've heard us refer to it as IAC. Grants are available for outdoor acquisition of land and habitat restoration projects. When I met with the public works committee, the primary thing that came out of that was to possibly use this grant as a funding source for a restoration project, in particular, the LID [97-1]. And I wanted to kind of direct this at our engineer because of the timing of this grant. If we do find for restoration to help us on the LID, if we're approved for it, we'd be approved around September. That list is not accepted by the legislature until the following spring, which is March or April, and the money is not available until the following summer. Is that timeframe -- that's not acceptable for the LID project, is it? IF we get the grant.

Gary Bourne [Acting city engineer from Berryman and Henigar] I can't say that it isn't, because all the planned use probably won't be able to be finished this spring, so some will be finished next fall and if there's grant money available we might be able to just [unintelligible] to delay and accept the money.

Murphy We can't request reimbursement on monies we've already spent.

Bourne I know.

Murphy And the money wouldn't be available until --

Bourne I know.

Murphy -- [unintelligible].

Bourne Well, if we delay much longer, we'll be into fall anyway. And I'm not saying we're delaying, I'm just saying if things don't come together before long, it's not, we'll go directly from winter to summer.

Criswell If you wait much longer, it'll grow back by itself.

Bourne But if you're asking me should we apply for the grant, if we have a good chance of getting a grant, I think that there'll be a good chance for us to use some of that money for that, for the mitigation.

Murphy Okay. And I honestly don't know if we have a good chance or not. I don't know the [unintelligible] on this. I've never worked on restoration grant applications before, so I don't have a good or a bad feel for this.

Criswell With all that's wrong with this LID, I think we're being pushed a little more than that to get this project finished. That's the feeling I have it. It sounds like this thing is a little bit out of our time range. It's a good-- there's nothing wrong with the grant, if we get the grant for -- there's a lot of other projects we can use it on.

Murphy Yeah, there's another project I was going to bring up after we finish this one. But it is a very intense application process where, after you submit the application, then you need to provide them with a dual slide show, drive down to Olympia and basically present this dual slide slow with your presentation. Then they determine where you are on the list. And usually there's about 80 applicants and they only fund between 10 and 25. So we have been successful in this, with this funding source in the past. They've funded the basketball court cover. They funded a lot of our park projects, which I don't need to go into right now. But it is an intense application process and it is very, very time-consulting.

Criswell What is the match on that?

Murphy 50%. Oh, excuse me --

Rowe Before we go in -- Donna, hold on a second. Grant, is this something that Jim, Perry and I should leave the room while we discuss this?

Weed What we're talking about is a close-out of some of the contractual commitments that the city made to do this project. I think that to probably err on the side of caution, you probably should recuse yourself from participating.

Raney [Acting as Pro-tem] We reviewed this at public works committee already, and the timeframe issue was the big concern, whether or not it would be applicable to this project, and whether it was worth the effort at this point to try and get in line for something. And there was some discussion about the possibility of trying to roll this into a bigger plan down the road about the trail system that might meander along the creek out there, be part of the Master Plan.

Criswell Would that be considered restoration?

Raney Well, that's the part, is that we probably couldn't use it for restoration and complete the project now --

Criswell No, no. I mean with a trail along there, would that be considered restoration?

Raney Part of this grant --

Murphy I don't think that a trail would be considered -- it would be considered passive recreation but not restoration.

Criswell I see what you're saying.

Raney But going after this grant at some point in the future you try and complete that project out there, do what we have to now to finish the project, but then at some point try and roll this in, mostly because of the timeframe and the restraints on it.

Criswell And we could use, like you said, that passive recreation for that trail and it might not go up and down the basin [unintelligible].

Murphy And that would have to be a future application, because the deadline on this is May 1^st.

Criswell In other words, you really don't have a project, other than this one?

Murphy No, no, not if I, I'm just kind of looking at [unintelligible]. The other project that I wanted to talk to you about is Culvert replacement, which is also under the Salmon Recovery Funding Board habitat grants, and this was discussed in the public works committee meeting, too. And it appears that that would qualify under that particular category.

Raney We're not on 97-1 anymore, though. Why --

Murphy No, no. The culvert replacements are on Trout Farm Road -

Raney We can close this discussion and -- Okay. Let's invite the mayor back in.

Voice What time?

Murphy Okay, we're still stalking about the IAC funds, but now we're talking about culvert replacement, which is two culverts that -- one's on Trout Farm Road and the other one's on Wisteria. And that appears to be an eligible project to be funded IAC's salmon recovery funding. Again, this is same timeline. The match, though, is -- I believe the match is -- I think it's 15%. It's much less, yeah. Okay, 15%.

Criswell Are you familiar with -- I'm talking to Connie, I'm sorry -- What are they supposed to do out there on the culvert, do you know?

Dunn The county?

Criswell Well, isn't this the one you're talking about?

Dunn Right. We're talking about the one at Trout Farm Road. We wrote the county and asked them to please - if we fix the one upstream, if they would consider replacing theirs? They were very quick to respond that it's the city culvert now. Since you annexed that property out there, you annexed the entire road, and they by mistake paid up to the corner there. So what the county is saying is, it's not their culvert, it's the city's. So we now actually own both culverts.

Criswell Now, what are they proposing to do? Raise the road up a little bit more? While they're doing that culvert restoration in there?

Dunn I think we're going to have to take a real serious look at the engineering side of this, because that's a real possibility, Rob, 'cause as you go around it dips pretty good right there. And to get the size of culvert that makes it passable by the fish and still maintain a decent road, you're going to have to raise it up. In a layman's opinion.

Criswell Which there is a big enough swell there. We could that without a, not much of a problem, but just some engineering and some work, yeah.

Dunn And looking at the driveways that access, the one driveway on the west side of the road.

Criswell I don't think it's down that much, though, is it?

Dunn I think it's workable.

Criswell I think it's workable, yeah.

Dunn You can do the open-bottomed ones and you can make them, you know, wider. So there's a lot of things you can do.

Criswell Box culvert, they call them.

Dunn Box culvert.

Rowe Okay, so we can get grants for it? Or do we just go fix it?

Murphy Yeah, that's what I'm -- that's what we're kind of discussing right now. Is that -- the grant for Salmon Recovery Board, it appears that replacement of those culvert would be, would qualify under that funding source. So if this is under discussion…

Dunn I'd like to see a scope of the grants and to start those applications. 'Cause this -- you know, like Don(?) said, this money's not going to be available till 2003. There's also other funding sources that may come along in the meantime. We just need to apply --

Criswell Don't you have to have a project to apply for them?

Murphy That would - that's what we're discussing, is replacement of those two culverts.

Dunn If we have a project, we could start applying for it from different funding sources.

Porter Do you need a motion? You don't need a motion on that, do you?

Murphy There is a match required. And we do need, yeah. And so I'm, yeah. I can't remember why we wanted it under discussion. And that might have been our error. Maybe it should have been on our action --

Criswell Is it too late to move that?

Porter I'll make a motion that we move, get to work on that grant for that, because that one culvert out there is, that's scary.

Criswell I'll second it.

Rowe Okay. Is there any more discussion?

Walser There's several things at work in the 800 MHz arena right at the moment that the council probably should be aware of. There's a growing movement, at least here in East County, by quite a few of the different cities to refuse to pay the infrastructure fees to the SERS [Snohomish County Emergency Radio System]. And it was brought on question when Councilman Criswell first asked at the joint meeting, why are we paying funds to another agency for equipment we do not own? Which I thought was a great question. And the fire department, in talking to Merlin Halverson, he absolutely agrees and supports this position. And I can tell you that the mayor of Monroe also supports this position --

Walser But it is a significant enough issue. The problem we have is that there is a discount offered by the county if we finance the 800 MHz system, and they told the council last time was, the original bill was $389,000, less the percentage inducement put it down to $272,000 as I recall, infrastructure cost, and the county would finance that at 5.5% for 15 years, and that's translates into 27,000-and-some dollars per year for 15 years infrastructure fee. In discussing this with some other folks, including folks from the west, it would seem reasonable to pay an M&O [Maintenance and Operations] fee if we were to go to the 800 MHz system, decline to pay the infrastructure fee. In sharing that with the mayor, I suggested that we ask maybe our city attorney for an opinion in that arena to see if we can have that legal footing to stand on. The county as I understand it, has already obligated councilmatic bonds to purchase this equipment for the Snohomish Emergency Radio System. And it's important not to confuse Snopac Dispatch Services with SERS. They are two different groups, they have two different boards of directors. SERS, which is the driving agency for the 800 MHz system, has their own board of directors, their own director they now employ the former engineer from the Snopac radio system that took care of engineering these radios [he picks up what looks like a small walkie-talkie] is now employed by SERS to help engineer and maintain their radio system. There is some confusion on whether or not the 150 MHz band frequencies are really going to go away, or whether if we re-license or reapply for our license, can keep these frequencies. And I'm - at my level, I just don't completely understand the engineering and all the radio frequency business - but I guess what I'm trying to share with the council is that we had a drop-dead date from the county of March 31s to commit to the infrastructure funding. And I'm suggesting that we maybe want to make a qualified approval of that, pending further investigation and dialogue with the other political entities involved, because I sense a "rebellion" on the part of virtually all the small cities towards the 800 Mhz drive. The driver for 800 Mhz, as I said earlier, really initiated in South County with Lynnwood, Edmonds and Mountlake Terrace and the city of Everett. The county basically was forced to follow, because they offered, you know, they provide police services in South County as well as the Everett area north. There is even a movement -- and I will tell you this right now -- that the East County police chiefs are planing a meeting for April 5^th to brainstorm police services in total in East County, which would include looking at our own dispatch center, as well as our own jail, our own court system, everything, shared services. And in light of the present economy, we think this is a fortuitous time to do that, if we can all come together. So that is on the table as well, with the eye towards reducing costs to everybody, obviously. So what I'm concerned about is that we don't leap to the 800 Mhz system without really exploring everything available. And this March 31^st date bothers me a lot, though I understand that the mayor of Granite Falls [Butch DeRosia] has made a proposal to ask the county to roll back that date to sometime in April or [unintelligible].

Koenig We received a phone call from him today, requesting that we draft a letter for the mayor's signature, requesting a 30-day extension on the decision of whether or not to contract with them.

Walser The other side of this is that on the 29^th of this month, the East County mayors are meeting -- with the gravel coalition in Monroe. This will be a subject of that meeting, where we have the other mayors there, for discussion.

Rowe I got a number of questions on that, too, Fred. Number One, is our cost to Snopac going to be the same if we go with this? Or should it be less? SERS has the equipment now, as today Snopac has it. Would our cost drop any?

Walser No. In fact, I anticipate that the Snopac user formula assessment is going to go up. They base their formula on property tax assessments, population, call for service…

Raney Property tax, call for service and population. Assessed valuation.

Walser The county, Snohomish County, has requested that the assessment formulas be reopened because they believe they are paying too much money, and that the cities -- and I agree with this [unintelligible] -- the cities are not paying their fair share. Our radio usage has gone way up because of growth and population. The same with Monroe. We are still operating on old assessments, 1994 assessment formula. So I can tell you that I know if we stay with the Snopac dispatch system, our costs for dispatch service is going to go up. And that's why I said, we're dealing with two different entities here. One is Snopac Dispatch, which is a service provider for the 911 system, records management and dispatch services. The other is the physical radio system, SERS, which handles the maintenance, building of the infrastructure and all of that. Two separate systems. They are housed together. SERS is leasing space from Snopac in Everett the Snopac headquarters, but they have their own, completely separate structure. It's just that Snopac uses [unintelligible].

Rowe Couple other [unintelligible]. Marysville has instigated their own dispatch system, right?

Walser They have their own system, yes.

Rowe Is that something we might be able to tie in with, or not just us, but the outlying cities?

Walser We're going to talk to Marysville. Marysville has a unique situation going, however. They rely on Snopac for a certain level of service. And I think I mentioned that before. Their RMS cache(?) system and B911 system funnels through Snopac. And then is cross-connected to Marysville dispatch. They have their own physical radio center. They just built a brand new one. And they also provide jail services, which I'm told they're maxed out. So -- side discussion -- but the time is ripe for us to really sit down and look at this whole thing.

Rowe Another question I got is -- I met last night with a meeting of the mayors of North County in Arlington -- and the mayor of Stanwood agrees that we're all getting shafted. But he says it's not affecting him at all, because he contracted with the county --

Walser Wrong.

Rowe He said that they're not raising his rates. Now, why is Stanwood [unintelligible] out of this?

Walser Okay [laughing]. You know, when somebody from the government says, "I'm not going to raise your rates. Trust me…" been there, done that. I don't believe it.

Rowe [simultaneously] But it does raise the rates one way or another.

Walser He's got to be assessed -- Gold Bar -- the county, in fact, told us that they were going to increase their assessments. Gold Bar's going to face that. Darrington's going to face it. I know Stanwood's going to face it. And this is a huge investment. And I just want to say, the voters turned it down.

Raney I'm going to make a motion to ask the mayor to sign a letter, asking for a month-long timeframe for us to re-look at this.

Porter I'll second that.

Raney And this just gripes me to no end, to have a gun held to my head, and then have this sort of date picked out of the air for a system they've already decided they've spent the money for and they're going to build, and they've got some cockamamie formula that they couldn't tell us what the components were, and so why we all got assessed a certain amount of money -- and they couldn't tell us what the M&O was going to be down the road.

Rowe And they're offering us this 30% "discount" if we do this by the end of the month, when Motorola gave the county a 50% discount if they could sign us up.

Male Oh, isn't that interesting?

Porter And in 8 or 10 years, there'll be -- this will be outdated and they'll be changing.

Rowe That's the scary part. Go buy this today --

Walser Let me add, I just talked to our radio tech, that repairs our radios today? [unintelligible] for about an hour, he was telling me everything that's wrong with the 800 system and why we shouldn't go and all of this, and other areas that have had the problems, so…

Walser And he says the system that we are buying is already antique.

Rowe SERS hired Motorola [unintelligible] manage it and Motorola says, Hey, we got the cure for you -- buy our equipment. That's exactly what happened.

Rowe They haven't gotten back to me with anything, Bruce.

Raney You should have gotten an email.

Rowe I did not.

Raney From the county. 'Cause I got a copy of it.

Rowe Not to me. It didn't come through on my email thing, 'cause I've been pullin' them off of there.

Criswell Fred, how does that work with Snopac? Now did they -- see they pay to use that equipment? Or does the people that own the equipment pay them to use it? I'm not sure how this all works out.

Walser To be very honest with you -- and I'm chairman of the board of Snopac -- I can't answer your question.

Criswell Sure, they have to be paid for the equipment. They're not going to let a bunch of people, Snopac, come in here and use your equipment for nothing.

Walser I'm sure there is assessments, at least, to Snopac, but I can't specifically answer your question how it's set up.

Porter Well, that's the [unintelligible] formula, Rob, that we pay. Fred, you're a chair of Snopac?

Walser Yes.

Porter It sounds like somebody's hired an engineer right out from under you there in the county, there's a conflict I see, of some sort, isn't there?

Walser Well, there's a history there. This has been going on for eight years. They are attempting to wind down the 150 Mhz frequencies. The main who has been maintaining the 150 Mhz for Snopac was going to be out of a job on the conversion. They're already starting the Phase I, which is bringing Evertt and Lynnwood, South County cities online in July or something. It's coming up very quickly. The SERS people then hired Jay as their engineer to maintain their towers and their system. Also cross-maintaining what's left of the 150 Mhz equipment.

Criswell If they're that far along with their -- in July they'll be online with this, how come they're just now coming to us with it?

Walser Well, they aren't just now coming to us, Rob. They came to us a couple years ago.

Criswell Well, yeah, I know, they went [unintelligible], but there they come back with this new package just --

Walser I asked them to come back because there was some new councilpersons here, I asked them to come out here. I told them up front I'm not a fan of 800 Mhz. I think there's something going on here that I don't like. I smell a rat, to be real candid.

Champeaux Fred, one of the big issues the other night was that everybody gets on the same system so they can all interact with each other. Now, part of the county's going to go to the system and the rest of the county isn't, how's that going to work for the time being until [someone coughs, obscuring several words] everyone comes online the same?

Walser I think it will be chaos if we have a major incident, if part of the county's on 800 Mhz and some of are on the old 150. I think we will have communication problems.

Criswell But they have those now. Everybody's on the same one.

Walser And that's why they want to convert, Rob. Get everybody on the same sheet of music, so to speak. But I'm not a radio tech. I admit absolute ignorance in understanding radios and how they work and why, etc. I'm not the engineer. All I know is off and on and talk. And frankly, in the class that I sat in with the 800 Mhz, that radio system bothers me because it takes a lot of training t operate. The don't -- it isn't a "push-and-talk" system, as we know it. You gotta retrain a lot of old-timers like me. And I don't see -- Now, the guy I talked to today said it may be possible to trunk [trump?] some of the 150 frequencies in with the 800 so we could cross-communicate. But I haven't a clue what he's talking about.

Rowe The guy told us that the other night. I'm not a radio expert either, but I know enough that one frequency shouldn't cross into the other one, I don't think.

Walser Well, they don't -- that's why you have frequencies, so that you can talk and not have this extraneous [unintelligible].

Criswell It probably goes through a repeater.

Walser Well, whether you have the ability to switch on the radio between things, I don't know.

Rowe Well, I think to keep this moving along, I think to ask for a month or a 30-day extension is great. But I think right for the moment here, maybe we should ask for a legal opinion on what we're doing. Do you have anything to add to this, Grant?

Weed [unintelligible] the timing, initially the county was saying they have to have approval of the interlocal agreement by each of the east county cities committing to it to get onboard with Phase II, to be a Phase II city and get this special financing. Then they said, Well, we don't have to have you approve the interlocal agreement, but we do need some type of commitment or letter of motion by your council to say that you're intending to be a part of it, and that's what a couple of cities have done. City of Snohomish is one of them, just the other night. I've gone through the interlocal agreement that's being proposed and my first run through it, I've identified a ton of things that were problems that were carried over from the first phase of cities' interlocal agreements that weren't applicable; things that needed redrafting. And so I met with Dan Clements at the County, their finance person, and Chief [sounds like, "Barrett"] from Fire District 4 the other day, went though that interlocal agreement with them and they acknowledged that there were some problems that need fixing and I was going to try and help them fix them. But they seemed to say as long as the cities who are going to come on board were willing to enter into that interlocal agreement sometime during the month of April, that would be satisfactory to them. So I don't -- if the City of Sultan were to take no action, I don't know if that would preclude you from getting the discount if you should ultimately decide to go, as long as you sign the interlocal [unintelligible]. I think it probably would be better to ask for a postponement of 30 days to make any kind of a commitment, whether it's by letter or…. [At this point our equipment fell onto the floor and our connections were lost for the remainder of Weed's comments -- and the rest of the meeting. One of the connection wires to our receiver came loose, and we unfortunately could not hook it back up.]

Loretta Storm:
Re Marketing Brochure for Industrial Area: Felt that, while the marketing brochure is beautiful and do not wish to denigrate the work that went into it, there are a couple of items in it that should not be there, and one important item that should be in it that is not. The brochure says that all the critical areas have been delineated. They have not. She had given this same comment during the planning commission hearing the night before. Also, there are very specific acreages related to specific zoning in the brochure. The EIS review on the Master Plan is not yet finalized and there were several owners at the hearing who indicated strong displeasure on the way land was being zoned. This brochure should not have been printed yet, and DEFINITELY pust the cart bef